
here's a link for LeBron's interview
The Browns did more than beat the New York Jets 20-13, they looked like a team with a clue on offense.Not every play worked, but at least the team knew what plays it planned to run -- and where guys should stand.
It's amazing you have to mention something so basic about a pro team, but these are the Browns. You've seen 12 men in the huddle, guys lining up offside and receivers running left, passes going right.
We won't even talk about the blocking assignments missed, the timeouts wasted because no one was sure what was happening on the field.
But Sunday was different, starting with the fact that the Browns actually won their first home game.
More Pluto here.
19. Honestly, a Browns home win is like freaking Christmas. They both come once a year (Hey-o!)
NBA players routinely pay big money for watches, but not the one Drew Gooden is now sporting. Gooden is on a big 1980s kick, a current fad in his hometown of Oakland. The Cavs forward recently plunked down $300 on eBay to get a vintage Casio calculator watch.He's growing a square patch of hair in the back of his otherwise shaved head, which he calls a ``ducktail,'' another '80s look. His left eyebrow also has two lines shaved into it, another forgotten trend from the time of the Reagan Administration.
Gooden, however, was a little upset he had to get into a bidding war for the watch. Apparently he's run into another trend, as fans of NBC's The Office are in the market because one is sported by favorite nerdy character Dwight Schrute.
``It was me and another guy and we were bidding back and forth and it kept going up and up,'' Gooden said. ``I was lucky I got it.''
No word yet on his bid for retro leg warmers.
25. With Drew Gooden's ducktail, Varejao's Sideshow Bob hair cut and the addition of Scot Pollard, the Cavs big men look entertaining to say the least.
26. Eric Snow is aware that you hate him.
27. Windhorst says the Cavs are the 6th best team in the league. It's hard to gripe with that (he has both Detroit and Miami ahead of them in the East), but I do think he (along with everyone else) is rating Phoenix way too high.
28.
Q: So how many games will the Cavs win this season?
A: I'll go with 53.
Q: Only 53?
A: Since when did ``only'' and ``53 wins'' ever appear in the same sentence about the Cavs? That's a lot of victories. The East is better, especially in the Central Division, where Detroit will win at least 55 games, where Chicago has improved dramatically and where Milwaukee is solid.
Q: But they won 50 a year ago; shouldn't they win at least 55?
A: The idea is to have the team winning enough games for home court in as many playoff rounds as possible. Even more important, to be playing as well as possible in the playoffs. That means not playing James more minutes than anyone else in the league to win a few extra games. It means working on an offense that is more than pick-and-rolls -- or throwing the ball to James and letting him do something. It means growing on defense, and learning how to win close, physical games under pressure. It means making sure the key guys on the bench play enough to stay sharp. So 50, 53 or 55, there's no big difference if the Cavs can accomplish most of these goals.
I'm with Pluto on this. I think the Cavs should win somewhere between 50-55 games. I don't really see them challenging the franchise record of 57 unless the offense really comes together. Read the rest of Pluto.
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30. Red Auerbach passed away. The NBA lost a great one, there's nothing I can really say that people haven't already stated. But the guy was awesome. Read Simmons's interview with Red from a few years ago.
"Carthon did a lot of criticizing guys," Coleman said. "Not to bash him, but I think J.D. is just a more laid-back guy and he knows football. When he explains things, you feel he knows what he's talking about. It gives you more confidence to go out and do what's asked of you."Wow. Just wow. I'm just glad the Browns kept Carthon around as long as they did.
I'm also glad that the Browns traded Trent Dilfer because he clashed with Maurice fucking Carthon.Former Browns quarterback Trent Dilfer told the Orange and Brown Report that Maurice Carthon's departure "doesn't hurt my feelings one bit."
He said it was obvious last year that he clashed with the offensive coordinator.
"Yeah, I made no bones about it," he said. "I didn't think he [Carthon] was very good from the second I got there. I think there [are] people that are good at what they do, and people that aren't.
So he saw this coming? "I'm shocked it didn't happen sooner."
I don't care who you are, that's just good coaching.One story from last year -- told by a player prior to this week -- seems to sum up what now appears to have been a dysfunctional situation.
It had then-quarterback Trent Dilfer telling Carthon that a play he called in practice had the wrong protection. Carthon responded by telling Dilfer to run the play the way he called it, protection or not.
That angered Davidson, who turned around and slammed his clipboard to the ground.
A) no way, the rookie player Carthon kept putting in the game liked him. You're kidding. B) the plays Carthon ran (the ones that featured rookie fullback Lawrence Vickers), Vickers liked. I for one am shocked. C) Vickers and Carton connected. Really, the rookie fullback and the former fullback? Awesome.Rookie fullback Lawrence Vickers was one of several players who complimented Carthon. Carthon, a former fullback, bonded with Vickers and showcased him, using him on two controversial third-down toss sweeps in the opener and then the infamous halfback option pass against Carolina.
"I'm going to miss Carthon," said Vickers. "He was kind of a mentor to me. We talked about a lot of things, football-wise and life.
"I just have to keep our friendship and relationship going."
He supported the three controversial plays Carthon used him on. "We just didn't execute the plays," said Vickers.
Zydrunas Ilgauskas is trying to prove you can teach an old Lithuanian new tricks.Yes! A Zydrunas hook shot? He'd be stupid not to do it.Ilgauskas was a popular scapegoat when the Cavs failed to upset the Detroit Pistons in May's playoffs. He scored just eight points in the Game 7 loss when LeBron James badly needed offensive help. It closed a forgettable playoff performance: In the first round, he was often outplayed by the Washington Wizards' Brendan Haywood, and then it got really tough when he had to face Defensive Player of the Year Ben Wallace.
After Ilgauskas had waited eight years between playoff appearances, it wasn't the way he wanted to end the season.
So he's trying to keep it from happening again by taking the somewhat rare and challenging step of adding a facet to his game at the age of 31. He has slowly and surely been working on an old yet forgotten move: the hook shot.
Oh man, Z hook shots. This is going to be sweet.It is hardly a work of hardwood art. With Ilgauskas' long arms, the maneuver looks a little more awkward than Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's famous sky hook. But he's shown some consistency, especially with the right hand, and some range as well.
``Uh, it's a layup, runner, floater, half-hook, sorta jumper.... . . '' Cavs coach Mike Brown said, ``that he seems to start from his knees.''
Ilgauskas is still working on the left-handed version, which is especially critical if he wants opponents to worry about him from the right block and to not favor his right side so much. He doesn't quite have confidence in it yet, but fans and other centers can expect to see it at some point this season.
``I worked a lot on the left hand; I don't have enough confidence to use it yet, but I'm working on it, and in the future I want to use it more,'' Ilgauskas said. ``If it becomes respectable, they have to defend it, and it is a higher percentage shot than a fade.''
Three reasons why we're happy Maurice Carthon has resigned/been fired/whatever as Browns offensive coordinator:
1. Assistant head coach Jeff Davidson, who replaces Carthon as offensive coordinator, is a future NFL head coach who deserves to run an offense.First of all, putting Dennis Northcutt into the "not-that-bad-but-likely-won't-ever-be-much-better" category is an insult to all Browns fans every where. Northcutt sucks. He's "not-that-good-but-not-gawd-awful".
2. Carthon's departure puts him out of his misery: He no longer has to be endlessly second-guessed each week after losses. It puts fans out of their misery, since so many are so positive Carthon is why the Browns have lost five games this season - and not that five teams were simply better than the Browns. It also puts Cleveland's media out of its misery: Anxious not to let fans have all the fun in the "Bash Carthon" feeding frenzy, it no longer has to twist itself into painful knots after every game - coming up with tortured logic to explain how veteran receivers dropping passes, offensive linemen whiffing on blocks and a quarterback who throws interceptions on against-their-body-across-the-field passes are all the fault of an offensive coordinator.
3. Carthon's departure will remove an easy scapegoat and end a distracting sideshow. And maybe, maybe, it'll draw attention to the real reason the Browns are 1-5 and on their way to a 3-13 or 4-12 record (rather than the 7-9 or 8-8 mark that some brown-and-orange followers thought before the season began): Because the Browns' overall talent is equal to that of a 1-5 team that's on its way to a 3-13 or 4-12 record.
OK, maybe the above statement is a bit too subtle. So we'll break it down further for you. Here are the ingredients that make up the 2006 Browns squad:
A few "not-yet-great-but-may-be-somedays." (Kellen Winslow Jr., Kamerion Wimbley, maybe Braylon Edwards.)
Several "not-bad-at-all-but-hardly-gonna-be-greats." (Andra Davis, Leigh Bodden, Joshua Cribbs, Sean Jones, D'Qwell Jackson.)
Several more "not-that-bad-but-likely-won't-ever-be-much-better" types. (Charlie Frye, Reuben Droughns, Brian Russell, Alvin McKinley, Dennis Northcutt, etc.)
A handful of "not-as-good-as-they-used-to-bes." (Willie McGinest, Hank Fraley, Ted Washington)
A large handful of "never-weres." (Start with backup quarterbacks Derek Anderson and Ken Dorsey, and work from there).
An even larger handful of "ain't-never-gonna-bes." (Go ahead, you can name them.)
That's your 2006 Browns team. Period. And, mark our words, someday - maybe even this time next year, when current Notre Dame star Brady Quinn might be starting at quarterback - folks will be shaking their heads at how so many people grossly overrated the 2006 Browns.
Jimy Williams, Davey Lopes, Alan Trammell and Art Howe are former major-league managers hired as coaches by teams since the regular season ended. Boy, it's wonderful that the Indians are so good that they don't need any experienced former major-league managers as coaches - people who might lend valuable, "I've been there" advice to manager Eric Wedge.
Smith was impressed by his former high school teammate's sudden passing efficiency.
"We had been practicing and practicing and practicing, watching duck after duck after duck," Smith said with a laugh. "After I carried out the fake, I turned around and saw a perfect spiral."
5. I was watching the Michigan-Iowa game and trying to root for Michigan when ABC decided to bring Brian Griese into the booth. So the booth had 2 Grieses and Paul Maguire. Needless to say, awful.They do things that make you scratch your head. Like on third-and-10 when Steve Heiden was sent into the huddle and Kellen Winslow was dragged out. What play was called?
A tight end screen to Heiden.
Awesome.
Left tackle Kevin Shaffer said the Browns are sticking together. "If we start finger-pointing, we'll be looking at a 1-15 season," he said.15. Um Kevin? Finger point all you want, you're looking at a 1-15 season anyways. Anyone think they'll beat the Jets next week? How about at Atlanta or San Diego the weeks after that? Well, then they go the Steelers, the Bengals and the Chiefs in Cleveland. Who thins those are winnable? The weeks after that they're in Pittsburgh and Baltimore. Enjoy that. And finally the last two weeks of the season they play Tampa Bay at home and they end the season at Houston. Which one of those games are they going to be favored?
16. What game do you they got a shot in? Tampa Bay? They seem to be improving (they just beat Cincinnati and Philly... That Houston game was looking promising, but Houston beat Jacksonville yesterday. So ya...
17. Speaking of, that Jacksonville loss kicked me out of my survivor league. Dammit.Maybe the real reason he's been steaming all these months is because Anthony accused him of setting up Balkman and Mardy Collins (No. 29) with 3-year guaranteed contracts in order to make nice with agent Leon Rose, agent for both. Oh, yeah, he also happens to represent LeBron James.As you recall, speculation was rampant at the time the Cavs' savior might not extend his contract, thus he'd be unrestricted to sign with New York, where he could make even more of an advertising killing than he is at present, after two more seasons. Shortly thereafter, James re-enlisted with the Cavs for five more seasons.
Is Thomas bent out of shape because Anthony figured out what he was up to; smart business, in my book. In fact, I conjured the exact same conspiracy when Thomas signed Jamal Crawford and Vin Baker, clients of Aaron Goodwin - James' agent du jour.
As I've written before, this is stupid. But let's go through this point by point
A) After the Larry Brown debacle, Thomas was given one year to turn around the Knicks. You would think that he would do everything in his power to make the Knicks good for this season. The idea that he would take players who share an agent with LeBron James, a guy who wouldn't be available for 2 more seasons, is laughable.
B) Balkman could've been picked up in the second round or even after the draft. Sharing an agent with LeBron isn't enough to justify taking him in the first round.
C) Vecsey says "speculation was rampant". Well, yes and no. ESPN and the New York media's speculation was rampant. Any sane person? Not so much.
D) More Vecsey: "he could make even more of an advertising killing than he is at present". Big markets don't really do much for star players. They're going to be stars no matter where they play. But for lesser players, that big market helps a lot. Would Rick Fox or Luke Walton be getting acting roles if they played for Utah? Would Greg Anthony be on ESPN if he spent his career in Portland? If Scott Brosius played for the Royals, people would've remembered him as a shitty player. But since he played in New York, he's a playoff hero. But Kevin Garrnett, LeBron and AI have seemed to do alright, haven't they?
E) Vecsey calls Thomas's manuevering "smart business". Really, signing players based on agents is good business? To make inroads with a player who won't be available for two more seasons? Especially when you only have 1 year to turn it around?
F) I know this might come as as a shock to people, but the Cavs can offer LeBron the most money. That's how the NBA works. So when his new contract is up, and he can sign a giant mega deal under the new CBA, you know what team can offer him that deal? The Cavaliers. This is why Ray Allen didn't leave Seattle, Michael Redd didn't leave the Bucks and Tim Duncan is still a Spur. The only way LeBron gets that contract with another team is if the Cavs agree to a sign-and-trade. Good luck with that.
G) I believe LeBron is more valuable in Cleveland (and Wade in Miami) than in New York. If the Knicks didn’t suck ass, the Garden would be rocking every night, and if they a starless contender (say, early 90s Cavs) then they’d still sell out road games (and draw good ratings) just cause they’re the Knicks and they are from NYC.
If the Cavs (or Heat) are decent/great but don’t have a star, they aren’t as marketable. Cleveland sells out a ton of road games, thanks to LeBron.
A decent/good Knicks team and a Cavs team with LeBron is more valuable to the NBA than a Knicks team with LeBron and a decimated Cavs franchise (and a pissed off fan base).
22. I'm also pretty sure Vecsey made this up.
23. Are you aware that the Cavs have lost their last two preseason games by a total of 3 points. To Atlanta and Toronto respectively. I know it's only preseason, but that isn't exactly inspiring.
24. Zydrunas Ilgauskas tweaked his knee in the Toronto loss. Dumb Cavs fans rejoice. Maybe now they can become a running team!!
25. Even more proof that Charely Rosen is dumb.
26. Liberal spoof of the Mac-PC ads. More (non-politcal) spoofs here.
27. Fark.com headline: Ohio State drops to 0-1 against elevators.
28. I never said that. Yeah, he never said that.I want you to explain to me why the computer hate TexasI'll take a crack at it. I'm gonna go with the following reasons:
You can argue that the Cavs don't have all the right pieces. You can argue that they overachieved to get to Game 7 against the Pistons a year ago. You can argue that LeBron needs more help this season. You'd have valid arguments on all fronts.Charley Rosen used to write about hte NBA for ESPN's page 2. Then, for some reason, he left ESPN and I really didn't care enough to search out his writing. I had no idea he was still writing about the NBA, at Fox Sports no less (also, Fox Sports still has a website? Who knew?)
But to argue that a 50-win team that was missing its second-leading scorer for almost 50 games last season, a team that needed stability more than anything else this summer and received it, needs to be imploded is just plain wrong.
A note to long-suffering Cavaliers' fans: Don't get caught in the LeBron James pipe dream. The best King James can ever be is an average NBA player.Honestly, how fucking wrong can you be? There's Sam Bowie over Michael Jordan wrong. There's "let's trade Ron Harper for Danny 'the next Larry Bird' Ferry" wrong. There's Dick Cheney "they'll greet us a liberators" wrong. There's the guy who passed on the Beatles because "guitar groups are on the way out" wrong. But this is "I get paid to write about the NBA and I think LeBron James sucks" wrong. I'm supposed to take his opinion seriously? Really? I think I figured out why he no longer writes for the world wide leader.
It was sometime in between him openly complaining about rule differences and taking a certain pride in smashing Maccabi Tel Aviv on Tuesday night. It marked the first time Ilgauskas had played against a true European team in 10 years, a reminder that he's now spent a decade calling Cleveland home. It led to somewhat of an epiphany.Z signed one of the first max deals a few years back and now he's into year 2 of a 5 year, $50 million deal.``I know now I'm an American player,'' the native Lithuanian said. ``Ten years in the NBA has made me one.''
Technically, once Ilgauskas married his wife last year he became an American. He's certainly paid enough taxes to Uncle Sam to make him welcome for the rest of his life as well.
This can only be a good thing. If he's anywhere close to 100% by the time the playoffs roll around, it's only going to help the Cavs.At 31, Ilgauskas is looking forward to this season with more vigor than any during his career. Last year marked the first time since his rookie season that Ilgauskas got to experience the playoffs. Like the other experiences in his past, he's trying to learn from it.
In each of the last two seasons, Ilgauskas has seemed to wear down at the end of the season. Now on the backside of his career, he's attempting to make changes to plan for the end of the season. Cavs coach Mike Brown has promised to keep a tight hold on Ilgauskas minutes to help out.
``You've got to take care your body better. The things you got away with at the beginning of my career I can't do any more,'' Ilgauskas said. ``I've got to go to bed at a reasonable time, watch what I eat before a game. The older you get, the first thing you realize is your recovery time takes longer.''
``I'm sure my family would like it at some point,'' Ilgauskas said. ``If I have a daughter, when she goes to prom I want to intimidate her date. I don't want to have to use a cane.''
I do feel for this guy:The Buffalo Bills got a reprieve Thursday. Local sports radio had a new villain – LeBron James and his Cleveland Cavaliers.
“Many fans, whether they want to admit it or not, were sold a bill of goods,” said Hot Talk 1280 WHTK host John DiTullio.
Rochester fans dethroned King James during the first NBA game here in more than 20 years.
“Didn't they get an assurance LeBron James was gonna play?” said one caller to DiTullio’s show.
About 9,400 people attended Wednesday’s game, paying from $25 to $150 to see the superstar.
LeBron, however, was benched the entire game, prompting loud boos from the crowd. Some people held up signs saying “LeBron dissed Rochester” and “LeBron ruined my childhood.”
A promoter’s radio ad for the game touts LeBron as a main attraction.
The ad said, “Don't miss your chance to see NBA All Star and Olympian LeBron James in action as his Cavaliers take on the Raptors."
Rochester hadn't hosted an NBA game since 1981. And so Curtis Echols, 42-years-old and born and raised here, spent about $400 (all figures U.S.) on tickets to bring his three sons and three nephews to the see their hero, LeBron James, play in their hometown.Now, don't get me wrong here, I can totally understand how these guys are pissed. But let's be clear here, this was no fault of LeBron. First of all, it's a freaking preseason game, if you're paying $150 dollars for seats to a preseason, you already got ripped off, I don't care who is playing.
But just as Echols was about to commemorate the moment with a camera-phone snapshot of James taking warm-up jump shots, the news passed through Blue Cross Arena like a bad flu: "LeBron's not playing."
Said Echols: "LeBron's not playing? That's a heartbreaker."
Cavaliers general manager Danny Ferry said they took the decision to play out of James' hands.Of course, LeBron did fuck with the fans a little bit. Every once in awhile he'd get up from the bench and pretend to take off the warm ups, only to go sit back down. I had the game playing on the radio (hooray Joe Tait) and trust me, they were not pleased.
''If it was up to LeBron, he'd play every game,'' Ferry said. ''Mike and I stepped in and wanted to be cautious.''
It really was the marketing guys who screwed this up for the people of Rochester, but the Cavs (and James) are going to get the bad press. They should schedule a game next season in Rochester and make the tickets really cheap (and find that guy who paid 400 bucks for 7 people and give him some freebies). It wouldn't make up for everyones night of Pavlovic goodness, but it could mend some fences and get some nice publicity.Team Vice President for Communications, Tad Carper, said, “We feel bad...It's something we'll take a look at in the future."
Carper said the team was not sorry it benched LeBron, but that fans may have been misled.
“It’s something we’ll take a look at in the future.”
Carper said the Cavaliers would be happy to return to Rochester. But it remains to be seen if fans would welcome them back.
"It was a necessary evil," said Ferry, who indicated promoters were alerted to the possibility that James might not play as long as two weeks ago. "It was not an easy decision. . . . I am sympathetic to the fans, but it was the right decision for our team."These guys got hosed, not by the Cavs or LeBron, but by the local media/promoters.
Andrew (Washington DC) : Who is more overrated coming into the season, Chicago or Phoenix?See, I may even know what I'm talking about sometimes.
Chad Ford: (12:10 PM ET ) Chicago ... no question. If Amare's healthy, I think the Suns will win it all this year. If he's not, they'll still be one of the top three or four teams in the West. My problem with the Bulls is that they were already a fantastic defensive team. Ben will make them even better, but their biggest weakness, low post scoring, wasn't really addressed. It may be down the road with Tyrus Thomas ... but not in the short term. I think they'll be better, don't get me wrong, but I can't agree with those who have them ready to take home the East crown.
Shawn (Copley): You're going to feel very stupid for putting the Cavs behind the Bulls. One good playoff series? That's all you base it off of? ONE PLAYOFF SERIES MEANS NOTHING. Even the Cavs run against the Pistons means nothing. I'm a Cavs fan and they got lucky against the Pistons and the Bulls are no different in that regard. Like the Pistons the Heat took Miami lightly and it bit them back. Like good teams after do after a tough loss, the Pistons and Heat fought them off and won. The Bulls are still a jumpshooting team and have no inside scoring. PJ Brown is 1000 years old and Ben Wallace has only been good in Detroits system and he's not exactly young himself. The Bulls will be better but they will not be better then the Cavs in the regular season. Get off the bandwagon. The Bulls are like the Miami Dolphins. One big signing and everyone goes overboard with their predictions. Come back down to earth. Larry Hughes and Anderson Varejao missed a lot of time last year and Shannon Brown should be an upgrade on our second unit and is a potential starter. Not to mention the fact that our signings from last summer should be more familiar with the system and have a better year. There's no reason the Cavs shouldn't be better.
Marc Stein: The Bulls had Miami on the ropes with NO bigs. ZERO. They now have two good ones (Ben and PJ) and a project big (Thomas) who'll eventually be quite good. That's why, going into the season, I like the Bulls better than a Cavs team that hasn't changed much.
It was a good game for the first quarter or so. Tel Aviv played close, but the Cavs just finished them off in the second and third quarters.Three NBA squads have been beaten in preseason games by European powers in the last two years, including the Philadelphia 76ers and Los Angeles Clippers this month. Tuesday night's guest was Maccabi Tel Aviv, which sucker-punched the Toronto Raptors last October in Canada.
No, the games don't mean anything, but with Team USA consistently bringing back bronze medals these days, the line has to be drawn somewhere.
So the Cavs showed extra fire just to make sure the game was quickly forgotten, not remembered as further evidence of America's regression. The result was a 93-67 dispatching of Maccabi as head coach Mike Brown let his front line play three quarters, just to be sure.
The sore spot offensively has been the turnovers. The Cavs gave the ball away 19 times against Maccabi and are averaging 21 per game in the preseason. Part of it is general sloppiness, but some of it can be attributed to learning new sets in the offense and making more high-risk passes into the interior.I think he misses the biggest reason for the TOs: the New Ball! I mean, that thing had to be slippery out there, they had been playing awhile. I mean, one could attribute it to getting a big lead, losing that edge and making sloppy passes, but I for one am going to blame all the Cavs early mistakes on the new ball. Bad passes/ New ball. Missed free throws? New ball. Lack of touches for Z? New ball. Ira Newble going 50 games without hitting a jumper? New ball. Anderson Varejao accidently breaking a guys face? New ball. It works for everything.
Well, that's pretty sweet. Playing time for Ira Newble. I think I speak for all of us when I say, "Awesome. Can't wait."That's why there seems to be keen interest among the Cavaliers fan base in rookie guards Shannon Brown and Daniel Gibson, who get a special ovation each time they enter a game. After watching both score 10 points, including a combined five 3-pointers, in last Saturday's preseason game against the Washington Wizards, there might be a thirst to see more.
But the reality is, at this point, it doesn't appear as either will have a spot in coach Mike Brown's rotation once the regular season starts.
The Cavs got out of the in-game development business when they started signing veteran free agents to fill out the rotation. Improving young players is still on the list of priorities, but it won't happen at the cost of dealing with a high volume of youthful mistakes.
In other words, the Cavs have five veteran guards who appear to be ahead of the two rookies at this point in Eric Snow, Larry Hughes, David Wesley, Damon Jones and Ira Newble. Mike Brown has made it clear he will go with his veterans at the start of the season. It appears as if Shannon Brown might even have to serve some time on the inactive list and Gibson is a candidate to be sent to the NBA Development League at some point.
If you read this blog with any regularity, you know I'm excited about these rookies. Well, mostly I'm excited to see Cavalier guards not named Eric Snow, Flip Murray and Ira Newble, but still...This is a recurring process in the NBA. Every year, rookies with an upside have to bide their time even if there is an interest to see how they can handle themselves. While Shannon Brown and Gibson have impressed the coaching staff with their poise and sense of belonging, in the loss to the Wizards both were on the court as the Cavs gave away a 15-point lead and lost.
``I know the talent is there, the opportunities will come, but there will be bumps,'' said Snow, who has been mentoring the rookies and telling them stories of his rookie season, when he was stuck behind guards Gary Payton, Nate McMillan and Detlef Schrempf with the Seattle SuperSonics.
``The hardest thing for them is the transition. One can say all the right stuff, but if you have any kind of competitiveness in you, it is tough.''
As the season wears on, there will likely be chances when one of the veterans in front of them is struggling, or there are injuries. Until then, unless there is a significant philosophical switch by the head coach, the newbies will have to be patient.
So ya, am I too pumped for a late first rounder and a second rounder? Probably, but when I keep reading shit like this, I can't help it:Snow and Larry Hughes are ticketed to open the season in the backcourt for the Cavaliers, who face Maccabi Elite Tel Aviv in an exhibition game tonight at The Q. Veterans David Wesley and Damon Jones figure to get the bulk of the backup minutes, but rookies Shannon Brown and Daniel Gibson have been impressive.
Brown, a first-round pick from Michigan State, is averaging 8.7 points and 1.33 steals in 21 minutes of three exhibition games; Gibson, a second-round pick from Texas, is averaging 6.1 points in 15 minutes per game.
"[The rookies] have looked great," Snow said. "They have both worked hard and they have listened."The talent is there. The hardest thing will be the transition from college to the pro level."
Brown, on rookie point guard Gibson, who is the quickest player on the roster: "I am not only surprised at the way he shoots the ball, but I expected him to get rattled, and he hasn't. He is smooth. He has been a pleasant surprise."Honestly though, I'm not really surprised. Rookies make mistakes (even LeBron, remember that time he passed to Ricky Davis?) and the Cavs are 'blessed' with experienced guards. The problem is, these experienced guards can't guard quick players. So Cavs fans, we gotta be patient. Enjoy watching these kids play in the preseason, cause once the season starts up, get ready for heavy dose of Ira Newble goodness. However, I'll say it now, Brown and Gibson will have a bigger role on the team come March than they will in November.
When is the Z trade going down? Z will hold us back in post season again and everyone knows it. Plus, his salary is killing our ability to retain Anderson next year. Z, Damon Jones and Ira or Sasha for a real point guard is inevitable.I love it. Cavs fans HATE this guy. They can't get over the fact that he's slow. Never mind that he's skilled and he's the only other Cav to demand a double team. He's slow. I mean, I've never seen a center that actually tries, that is so hated. Most NBA big men, when they get that big contract they taper off. They don't hustle as much, they don't rebound as much; in short, they don't care. But Z is diving for loose balls and blocking shots and getting clocked by Rasheed Wallace. At least this guy gives a shit).
9. I think I hate to do this. I really do. We're in Week 6 of the football season, but I have to give some advice to Joe Torre and Brian Cashman right now, because they are decent men, even if they do work for the Evil Empire. Get in a car sometime this month, and drive 3½ hours up I-95 to Foxboro. Visit the Patriots. Or if you're inclined to go a place where you might be more invisible, fly to Chicago, rent a car and drive north to Lake Forest, where the Bears are headquartered. Learn how to build a winning team and how to navigate through the noise that disrupts every big-market team today.
Football isn't baseball, you'll argue. Football is the ultimate team game, and baseball is more of a stars' game. But the one thing all good baseball teams have is the one thing all good football teams have -- role players. Guys who don't need the credit and who don't earn the big money. In baseball, David Eckstein is a winning player, much the same as Mike Vrabel is. It wasn't so long ago that both of them were on the street. The best team in football right now is the Chicago Bears. Look at their roster. Ever hear of Bernard Berrian, Rashied Davis, Mark Anderson, Tank Johnson, Alfonso Boone or Jason McKie? Don't feel bad. Not many football fans have, either.
Those are six of the 25 or 30 most important players on the team rampaging its way through the NFL right now. I'm guessing their combined salaries equal one month of Alex Rodriguez's. This is what Bears GM Jerry Angelo told me the other day: "One of the things I learned from the Patriots and Steelers in the last few years is they lost more than they gained in free agency, and they never were worried about it. They drafted rank-and-file players, developed them, were patient with them, knew the exact roles they wanted them to play and put them in those roles. Dan Graham, Asante Samuel, Eugene Wilson ... are any of them stars? No. Are they Patriots players? Yes. And that's all they care about.''
Before this season, Angelo was assailed for not getting a big-name receiver in free agency. He was in the game for Antwaan Randle El but didn't think he was worth $6 million a year, and lost him to Washington. "I got hammered by the local media for not getting a good receiver,'' he said, "but I said, 'Guys, we've got good receivers here. They fit the profile of what we want in a receiver.' But because we'd done a poor job of stabilizing the quarterback position, you couldn't tell what we had at receiver. We'd gone for five years playing three or four quarterbacks almost every year. How do you know if your receivers are any good? They never work with the same quarterback. Now that we've had Rex for an offseason and he's been healthy for the regular season, now we can judge the receivers. And what we have is pretty good.'' To say the least. It's a lesson for all other franchises, regardless of the sport.
"During high school, I played junior hockey and still hold two league records: most time spent in the penalty box; and I was the only guy to ever take off his skate and try to stab somebody."Taking off your helmet and hitting people, fucking awesome.
There are so many things that piss me off about this, in no particular order:Well, guess we struck some deep nerves with a recent column suggesting that it's wrong to largely blame Browns offensive coordinator Maurice Carthon for the team's 1-4 start - it's produced angry calls, e-mail, letters and nasty words on Browns fan Web sites.
We'll sum up our position with two more thoughts:
No. 1. Is Carthon the most brilliant offensive mind since Bill Walsh prowled the sidelines? Absolutely not. Could Browns assistant head coach Jeff Davidson do a better job calling the plays? Probably. But we'll say it again: Bashing Carthon has become a convenient, handy crutch for frustrated fans and pandering-to-the-crowd media pundits who tiptoe around the real problems with this team's offense. Like:
A second-tier offensive line.
A running back who's better than mediocre but may be a bit overrated after a 1,000-yard season in 2005 (Reuben Droughns).
A limited, still-unproven quarterback (Charlie Frye).
Pass catchers (Kellen Winslow Jr. and Braylon Edwards) who do have considerable potential - but hardly are the second comings of Tony Gonzalez and Jerry Rice. (Yet.)
No. 2. Frankly, we feel like we're living in a parallel universe when we're debating some folks about Frye's effectiveness as a starting quarterback. They see a tough, confident, commanding field general with an NFL arm that's beyond question. A guy who's the next Brett Favre - if only Carthon's presence wasn't holding him back from his rightful greatness.
We see an admirably tough guy whose arm - while better than 2005 - still doesn't appear to scare opponents with its strength, accuracy or touch. A quarterback who has nearly twice as many interceptions (9) as touchdown passes (5) and the most picks of any league passer. One who yields a mere 9.8 yards on every pass he does happen to complete. And one whose field judgment in tough, critical situations is inconsistent and often unreliable. In short, a quarterback who has been remarkably average and largely unspectacular.
We can confirm our impression of Frye with three sources - two open eyes and cold reality. What are Frye's boosters using to support their optimistic view of him as an NFL quarterback - besides stubborn hope and delusions that firing Carthon will solve all?
Word is, there are rumors floating around town that Plain Dealer “columnist” “Radio” Roger Brown is out of a job.23. Now, I didn't really believe it, but then I pick up today's PD and his Monday Media column is nowhere to be found. So... could it be true? Could he be gone? I'm still not convinced, but lord we can all hope.
Word is, the controversial “columnist” was either fired or accepted a buyout or was forced to accept a buyout instead of being fired.
What a shame. If true, it’d be a great loss to the Cleveland journalistic community.
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He had to make several adjustments, including raising his voice.Getting young guys to study game film is one thing. But a guy watching DVDs at home of practice? We're talking about practice! Me gusta."I've never been that vocal out there on the floor because I've always tried to lead by example," Gibson said. "In this league, the point guards are looked upon as leaders, so you have to be able to tell guys what to do. Eric Snow told me regardless if I'm a rookie or not, guys have to feel comfortable when you tell them stuff."
Becoming a vocal leader is only half the battle. A successful point guard must know what he is talking about while directing traffic. That means plenty hours of study once practice is over. Gibson routinely takes a DVD of that day's practice or game home for further viewing.
"That was a big difference," Gibson said. "We have plays with more than one option and as a NBA point guard, I have to do more than just know what I have to do. I have to know what everyone's doing. I'm watching film to do everything I can to be prepared so I can be ready when coach calls my name."
Once Gibson returns to practice the following day, he follows the same routine of getting to the gym early to work on shots and participate in drills. He's also one of the last players to leave because he finishes the day with more drills and more shots. Gibson also spends time with veterans David Wesley, Damon Jones and Eric Snow.
"I like his willingness to learn and ask questions," Snow said. "The talent is there. His work ethic and his willingness to learn means it's only a matter of time before he gets better. It's extremely tough for a young guy to play this position but Daniel's been doing a good job so far."
I like this a lot. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I love the Gibson pick up. He was one of the top ranked college players to begin last season and he had a down year. Then he fell in the draft (many experts had the Cavs selecting him in the first round, but they grabbed him in the second) so I thought the Cavaliers had a steal.
For the record, Gibson went 3-5 from 3 point range in Saturday's preseason loss to the Wizards. From Cavs.com:
I cannot wait for this season to start."Daniel Gibson showed a lot of poise," said Mike Brown. "He tried to get the team into the offense and I thought he took the right shots and he tried to defend. Shannon, he scored, he worked hard at times, but they both have a ways to go."
"They looked impressive tonight," quipped LeBron. "They shot the ball very well. Daniel Gibson, late in the game, tried to put (the team) on his back and win a ball game for them. He came up a little short, but the confidence in those two guys looked pretty good."